come and get it: and donate to charity later
Come and get it: and then later give what you can to charity
Incidentally I'm occasionally marking down the progress to this event with comments on twitter @azacru .
I'm brand new at that so may go awry! Obviously your tweets and RTs on this would be much appreciated.
If you want something standard to tweet suggest:
Didsbury boardgame publisher bites dust but u can take a set and later donate what you will to charity http://www.pacru.com/takethinkgive.html
Enjoy strategy games? Pick up an excellent board game in Didsbury on Nov 17th & consider donation to charity http://www.pacru.com/takethinkgive.html
Explanation in under thirty seconds
You email me to say you are coming to the event (just a subject line is fine). If it's already Sunday 11.30am then just
bring your email address, or other means of contact, along.
You come to the Didsbury Perk Cafe on Sunday 17th Nov 2013 between 12-5, and pick up a Pacru game set
After you've played the games at home you visit one of the JustGiving links and make a donation
Explanation in one minute
1 I have 300 Pacru sets
2 The games have been well received
3 I want these games to go to people who will enjoy them
4 I want money to go to good causes
5 You email me to say you are coming to the event. If it's already Sunday 11.30am then just
bring your email address, or other means of contact, along.
6 You come to the Didsbury Perk Cafe on Sunday 17th Nov 2013 between 12-5.
7 You pick up the game set and go
8 At some point after you've been able to play the games you make a donation via justgiving website
9 If I've seen a donation from you on the page - I say "Thank You" and that's the end of it and I don't contact you again
10 Otherwise I check and email you after 3, 6 and 12 weeks saying simply "just a reminder about Pacru 302" and after 12 weeks I won't contact you again (maximum of 3 emails) and will remove email address from my records.
The justgiving links in alphabetical order:
1 I have 300 Pacru-302 sets (retail price has ranged between 19.99 and 35.00). Although Pacru, Azacru and Shacru will carry on, Pacru Ltd is closing down (not owing anyone any money apart from me) after 10 years. I have not been single-minded enough to run it well as a business (working full time elsewhere, having a family life and having other interests didn't really work with the energy and effort required) and the cost in time and money of publicity and promotion to sell the remaining stock commercially does not make sense.
Some boxes/rules were for the German market - but I have spare copies of the English rules for these (and the rules are also available on this site as pdfs for many different languages). Let me know in your email if a German box is not OK for you.
2 The games have been well received and have sold from the USA to Germany to Japan.
3 I want these games to go to people who will enjoy them, regardless of ability to pay.
4 I want the money to go to good causes, and I've picked 5 very different ones you can give to, so that there is likely to be at least one that anyone will be happy to give to.
5 You email me to say you are coming to the event, or someone is coming on your behalf, and what name you will use when donating via justgiving website, and this is taken as agreement to my emailing you reminders after the event up to a maximum of 3 times (see point 10). If it's already Sunday 11.30am then just
bring your email address, or other means of contact, along.
6 You come to the Didsbury Perk Cafe ,88 School Lane, Didsbury, M20 6GH Manchester on Sunday 17th Nov 2013 between 12-5.
7 You pick up the game set - we tick you on the list made from those who have emailed. You can go straight away (so could take two minutes in-and-out) or you can get a good explanation of rules from a player or you can hang around and play if you want (which is a great way of learning how to play any game).
8 You play the games over the next few weeks or months and decide what you would have been happy to pay for the set, now that you have been playing with it. Whatever that figure is, you donate what you can of that amount via the justgiving website
9 If I've seen a donation from you on the page - Thank You! - I email you to say thank you and that's the end of it and I don't contact you again.
10 Otherwise I check and email you after 3, 6 and 12 weeks saying simply "just a reminder about Pacru 302" (as both title of message and content) and after 12 weeks I won't contact you again. I'll remove any email addresses and contact details at that point, unless you've asked to the contrary.
How do I get to the Didsbury Perk?
The address is 88 School Lane, Didsbury, M20 6GH Manchester. If you put M206GH into
North West Journey Planner you should find metro (Didsbury Village metrolink is less than 10 minutes from the cafe), bus and train services.
How do I make a donation?
Have a look at
JustGiving's own explanation of how to do this.
I can't make the event and nor can anyone I know - is there anyway I can still participate?
I'm nowhere near Manchester - can I join in?
This is slightly more complicated. There are 2 answers:
The postal cost is £5.60 (small packet over 1kg, 2nd class, no tracking). So in this case you would have to pay that cost to me via my personal paypal ( ). I'll then post any games asked for in this way on the following saturday morning after the request.
I'm very happy to consider this - it would have to be at a weekend from now till the end of January 2014 - and it could only be in Manchester, Birmingham, Reading or London. Let me know what dates you can make. If Birmingham, Reading or London then it would be useful to have your ideas for a possible venue!
I want to have/give the game set for Christmas. So I won't know what's it worth until after 25th December.
Just let me know this when you email or pick the game up. That way I'll start your reminder emails from 3 weeks after Christmas.
What is the minimum donation?
£2 - that's the minimum you can give on the justgiving website. If you think the game is worth £20 but all you can afford is £2 that's fair enough - it would be nice to hear what you think of the game! If you think the game is only worth £2 then I guess you are not going to be playing it in the future so please pass it on to someone who might like it (and they could always donate in your place if you let them know) or otherwise give it to your local charity shop.
Can I donate more than I think the game is worth?
Of course you can! You can just do it in one sum, or separate out what you think it is worth, and what you are giving because you like the idea or you feel like donating more to that charity.
Can't you give a suggested figure?
I think "what would you be happy to have paid for this?" is a good way of deciding. The game has been sold generally for somewhere between £20 and £35 pounds. This reflected the normal way of pricing a game based on its production costs (for a relatively small production run). If we had had many more manufactured then maybe that would price would have been down to £15.
I can't afford much - won't my donation look small besides other people's?
You can donate annonymously on justgiving (see the link under the question "how do I donate?") and you can just let me know by email that you've made the donation (which stops me emailing you a reminder). Anything contributed is good and I'm glad if you've got a game you might not be able to afford normally.
Are these games disappearing?
Not if I and the small base of keen fans can help it. I will be working on identifying a suitable publisher for a new set on which to play the games, and also the possibilities for playing on smartphones etc.
There have been Pacru championships for the last 10 years, Azacru and Shacru for over 5 years each.
Is this a con to get free publicity and you are keeping back a load of stock?
No. There are approx 360 Pacru 302 sets left. I'm going to keep 30 or so which will be useful in the process of looking for a new publisher, or for selling to some enthusiastic person from somewhere in the world who stumbles on Pacru and gets in touch (as happens very occasionally). Any of the rest of the stock that does not get picked up via this or other come-and-get-it events before the end of January 2014 will be taken by me and donated asa couple of sets per shop to charity shops around the north west (which sadly will probably raise much less for charity and mean less chance of ending up with someone who likes these kind of games). However there will be no manufacturer's boxes holding 6 Pacru 302 sets taking up costly storage space after January!
I *do* hope it gives more publicity to the games - of course I do, but there is no immediate financial benefit from this and no conflict of interest.
I'm also describing the event as
and it has some relation to (links are to wikepedia entries)
- come-and-get-it: donate what you can later.
- take think donate
- take think give
- take and give
Where did this idea come from?
I'm sure other people have done exactly the same thing many times before - but for me it was a combination of thoughts. I'd been interested in the ideas of paying-what-you-think-something-is-worth and paying-what-you-can-afford for a long time. It interests me that there are things I have, or services I've received, or events I'd been to - and you tend to pay a similar (not the same) price for the same type of thing. So I have music CDs for which I paid a similar price and some have been played 1-5 times (I try to give things a chance) but have not been played again ... whereas others have been played over 20 times, over 50 times or my favourites well over 100 times. So their value to me is very different but there isn't usually a mechanism where that benefits the people who made the CD ... unless they produce a different CD and I automatically buy that as something I'm likely to enjoy. There are some books which I wish I hadn't wasted my time on .. and others I wish I had time to read many times more (my favourite fiction being that of Russian 19th authors).
Then Radiohead did their download thing where you can pay a variable price (I'm not a particular fan so didn't participate in that) which was a notable event. Paying-what-you-can-afford is perhaps one of the drivers of consumer participation in piracy. The argument, which has its merits but only partial validity in my view, is that certain goods are near-to-free a regards copying costs, and that isn't it better that a 100,000 people hear something with only 10,000 paying for it, rather than just 15,000 hearing something and them all paying for it.
To cut a long digression short, when I decided that I could not afford to republish a new run of the Pacru 302 set, and I personally couldn't afford to publish a new one, then it became clear it would be both somewhat pointless and rather risky to try to market and sell the remaining 300 odd sets. I've not done any charity fundraising (as opposed to donating) for a long time, and the idea came of combining people judging what they thought something was worth & the idea of try before you buy ... with the idea of people also being able to pay only what they could afford .... and using this as a mechanism for raising funds for charity. As I say I'm sure the idea exists elsewhere. I'd describe is as #takedonatelater or #takethinkgive
I already have a set but I'd like to support this event anyway
or I'm a friend who would like to support you in meeting this charity fundraising challenge
That's very generous! If you email me to say you want to do this then I'll email you after Jan 31st 2014 to say how the events(s) and their charity fundraising have gone. The target I've set myself for each charity for whom I'm trying to raise funds is £250. I'd suggest a donation of £2 if I reach a sum of £500 across all 5 justgiving pages, and if I actually reach a sum of £1250 across all 5 then you might consider a donation of £5. If you want to give me and my fundraising efforts some up front support by simply donating that £2 now that would be brilliant - I'd be on my way.
By the way - do remember - you could always get a set through this event and then give it as a gift to someone else!